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the romney/ryan spending plan here. but last night martha raddatz's questioning and joe biden's badgering got paul ryan to disavow this plan altogether saying he does not want an increase at all despite the fact it is what he and mr. romney has been campaigning on. paul ryan broke new ground on saying how and why he and mitt romney would overturn roe v. wade and make abortion criminal. his issue on rape in particular has people going nuts today for obvious reasons. we'll be covering that in future shows. joe biden also dipped paul ryan in tar and rolled him in feathers on the issue of the stimulus. and mr. ryan's supposed principles on that issue. we talked about that moments ago with chris hayes. but there are two things that i think are hugely important to the presidential campaign that happened last night. two things that i, frankly, never thought we would get to. and that we got to and, boy, howdy, is this new territory. first was this. >> you asked, do i feel free? let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in
the romney/ryan spending plan here. but last night martha raddatz's questioning and joe biden's badgering got paul ryan to disavow this plan altogether saying he does not want an increase at all despite the fact it is what he and mr. romney has been campaigning on. paul ryan broke new ground on saying how and why he and mitt romney would overturn roe v. wade and make abortion criminal. his issue on rape in particular has people going nuts today for obvious reasons. we'll be covering that in...
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unfortunately, the burden is on romney and ryan. we already know what to expect with biden and with obama. but unfortunately, romney and ryan have the burden to say we can change the trajectory of the conversation of what's going on in the country and do it well, and that didn't happen with clarity and conviction last night. >> i half agree with carol on that point. but the other part of the equation -- >> i don't think you can agree with that point, because the only poll i have seen about undecided was done by any major network was cbs and it was pretty clear who won the debate amongst uncommitted voters, ryan 31%, biden 50%. he smashed him which was my reading of it in the moment. >> look, people are voting right now in ohio. so if you've made up your mind in ohio and you watched last night's debate, you were energized and went out to the polls and voted, that makes an impact on the election. governor romney can't win without ohio. there are, there is a narrow sliver of voters that are still in play in some of these states. i thin
unfortunately, the burden is on romney and ryan. we already know what to expect with biden and with obama. but unfortunately, romney and ryan have the burden to say we can change the trajectory of the conversation of what's going on in the country and do it well, and that didn't happen with clarity and conviction last night. >> i half agree with carol on that point. but the other part of the equation -- >> i don't think you can agree with that point, because the only poll i have...
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now they are trying to blame its romney-ryan particular for making this an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal which was, we agreed with the obama administration. let's have a agreement to make sure we secure our game. the vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama. and they failed to get the agreement. we don't have a force as agreement because they failed to get one. that is what we are talking about. and when it comes to our veterans, we owe them a great debt of gratitude. for what they've done for us. including your son, beau, but we also want to make sure we don't lose the things we fought so hard to get. and with respect to afghan tan, the 2014 deadline, we agreed with the 2014 transition am but what we also want to do is make sure we're not protect ing weakness abroad. and that's what is happening here. this benghazi issue would be a tragedy in and of itself. but unfortunately, it's indicative of a broader problem. and that is what we are watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of th
now they are trying to blame its romney-ryan particular for making this an issue. with respect to iraq, we had the same position before the withdrawal which was, we agreed with the obama administration. let's have a agreement to make sure we secure our game. the vice president was put in charge of those negotiations by president obama. and they failed to get the agreement. we don't have a force as agreement because they failed to get one. that is what we are talking about. and when it comes to...
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some people say he started the bleeding of paul ryan and mitt romney but i think his job in the debate is to end last week for the obama-biden campaign. first i want to ask you, do you think he was able to accomplish that. >> i think he did. he certainly did that last night. he changed the narrative. whether or not the administration was back on its heels, afraid or unable to engage unable to loosen up and take it to the other side, we saw that and more. interestingly enough we have a retroactive answer to why the president last week may be seemed a little stiff, maybe didn't seem so jovial. didn't loosen up and try to engage mitt romney. as we saw last night it can be jarring. not everybody liked it. >> that's something i want to ask you thomas frank this style, are we reading too much into it or did it matter a lot last night. >> it's a vice presidential debate, so by definition it did not matter a whole lot. i tell you, i had two really different reactions to it. i read the debate before i came to the studio. i read the transcription of the debate and i agreed with joe biden on almo
some people say he started the bleeding of paul ryan and mitt romney but i think his job in the debate is to end last week for the obama-biden campaign. first i want to ask you, do you think he was able to accomplish that. >> i think he did. he certainly did that last night. he changed the narrative. whether or not the administration was back on its heels, afraid or unable to engage unable to loosen up and take it to the other side, we saw that and more. interestingly enough we have a...
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last night mitt romney and paul ryan played to a large crowd in lancaster, ohio. there was a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of excitement in the air. and in large part because they believe the republicans believe they've won these first two debates. governor mitt romney had a pretty strong performance out in denver ten days ago. paul ryan had a pretty solid performance two nights ago down in kentucky. but that excitement and energy notwithstanding there's a lot of work left to be done for this ticket here in ohio. the president still shows a lead here in ohio, even though that lead has been chipped into over the last week or two, by about half in some of these polls. putting mitt romney within striking distance of the president. now, he may still, mitt romney may still have a challenge, a hurdle to clear with some undecided voters here. and that's surrounding this auto bailout. the president of course supported that bailout, pushed it through. the president and his campaign says that bailout saved hundreds of thousands of jobs not just in detroit but here in ohio and el
last night mitt romney and paul ryan played to a large crowd in lancaster, ohio. there was a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of excitement in the air. and in large part because they believe the republicans believe they've won these first two debates. governor mitt romney had a pretty strong performance out in denver ten days ago. paul ryan had a pretty solid performance two nights ago down in kentucky. but that excitement and energy notwithstanding there's a lot of work left to be done for this ticket...
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but it's a pattern with ryan and romney. he tried to cut veterans benefit 1/1%. when heroes come back, paul ryan was one of only 12 congressmen of 435 that voted against the post-9/11 g.i. bill. >> why is that important? when you have veterans every single day committing suicide because we ask them to take on our safety and we don't cake care of them. you can't have it both was. you can't turn around and criticize when we could do more. >> i hate to interrupt. there's a new ad out today. this one -- it's a positive issues ad about the president. i want to play a clip and talk about it on the other side. take a look, listen to the question. >> few have faced so many. four years later, our enemies have been brought to justice. our heroes are coming home. assembly lines are humming again. >> "time" magazine columnist joe klein wrote earlier this week the president needs to, quote, descend from the mountaintop and make his best case for keeping the job. is this the best strategy shift we're seeing today? >> i think so. he needs to let paem know unlike mitt romney who
but it's a pattern with ryan and romney. he tried to cut veterans benefit 1/1%. when heroes come back, paul ryan was one of only 12 congressmen of 435 that voted against the post-9/11 g.i. bill. >> why is that important? when you have veterans every single day committing suicide because we ask them to take on our safety and we don't cake care of them. you can't have it both was. you can't turn around and criticize when we could do more. >> i hate to interrupt. there's a new ad out...
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we're as close as it is. >> ryan, this is a shift actually in the romney/ryan campaign. they've started to use the word capability for the threshold. >> very important. >> that's a very ambiguous standard. they're not saying have nuclear weapons, they're saying the capability. >> everyone should be clear. this is one of the things where there is a policy difference that's being obscured by the rhetoric. the debate largely between the obama administration and netanyahu's folks as far as i can understand as i follow this is the question is the red line a weapon or is the red line a capability. the capability is before actually having a weapon and much more haze zilly defined? is that more or less -- >> that's my understanding. there's a broader sense of whether would an obama administration support israel as opposed to a romney administration? that is a real debate and a real question people are asking. i think if there is one to attack, obama would go along with it in the end. >> the intractability of syria was another issue that was on the table. i think the reason that
we're as close as it is. >> ryan, this is a shift actually in the romney/ryan campaign. they've started to use the word capability for the threshold. >> very important. >> that's a very ambiguous standard. they're not saying have nuclear weapons, they're saying the capability. >> everyone should be clear. this is one of the things where there is a policy difference that's being obscured by the rhetoric. the debate largely between the obama administration and netanyahu's...
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the romney-ryan ticket has been spending more time in ohio than in the country. here is a little bit from governor romney at his last event. thehis president on friday the administration was to put out hasanswer to the question chas china manipulated their currency or not. they were supposed to designate that on friday. they said we will not do that. we will wait until after the election to do that. seven times so far they passed the buck on that. i'm not going to pass that off. on day one i will label china a currency manipulator and get serious about making sure that people don't cheat when it comes to trade. >> reporter: the obama administration asserted that doing such tough crackdowns on china could lead to a trade war of the fastest growing economy in the word and they said that mr. romney hasn't been entirely pure when it comes to doing business with china himself in his private life and private business experience. the romney campaign says it is all excuses and time for the u.s. government to stop putting up with china's trade practices and currency manip
the romney-ryan ticket has been spending more time in ohio than in the country. here is a little bit from governor romney at his last event. thehis president on friday the administration was to put out hasanswer to the question chas china manipulated their currency or not. they were supposed to designate that on friday. they said we will not do that. we will wait until after the election to do that. seven times so far they passed the buck on that. i'm not going to pass that off. on day one i...
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what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i think he was toned down in denver because he was advised not to be that barack obama. don't be overly arrogant toward rim rim. now he has to find that balance, which i don't think joe biden found last night. i think saturday night live will have a great skit -- >> don't count on it. >> well, you are probably right. but he's got to be able to do that. he has to be able to take the bite, like joe biden did -- joe biden took the fight to paul ryan. romney has to do exactly what he did in denver. he has to be the person he is. mitt romney we saw in the primary, the one who defined himse
what do romney/ryan need to do at hoff stra. this is barack obama's territory. he likes the town hall meetings. i think he will feel a lot more comfortable and go on the attack? >> he does. but i think one of the reasons we saw a sort of reduced barack obama, if you will, in the last debate is because he has a tendence tow come off as arrogant and smug and petty, almost as if he can't believe someone would have the audacity to disagree with his opinion. that's what he has to avoid. i...
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at each event today, mitt romney and paul ryan have been trying to thump mr. obama for his absence of leadership on this, they say. here is a sampling from earlier today at mr. romney's convenient in portsmouth, ohio. >> over the past several years, the president failed to call china a currency manipulator. he had the occasion on friday to come out with that official designation. you know what they said? we're not going to make any determination until after the election. let me tell you, on day one of my administration, i will label china a currency manipulator. >> here in ohio, that is a particularly potent attack because the manufacturing base had taken such a hit over the past few years, both in the obama economy and before. paul ryan was campaigning today in youngtown, ohio. he made the point that mr. obama has had a number of chances to take steps to crack down on china and passed on them. watch. >> the administration had their eighth chance to label china a currency manipulator. it's due in two days. they say they're going to push this deadline off until
at each event today, mitt romney and paul ryan have been trying to thump mr. obama for his absence of leadership on this, they say. here is a sampling from earlier today at mr. romney's convenient in portsmouth, ohio. >> over the past several years, the president failed to call china a currency manipulator. he had the occasion on friday to come out with that official designation. you know what they said? we're not going to make any determination until after the election. let me tell you,...
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and ryan made it so. does that seem to you that she is saying that the lives of these four brave americans is not important? >> i hear that, and i also hear that, well, it wouldn't be an issue if we hadn't gotten caught. >> what more do you on your commit that's investigating this whole affair, what more do you want to know? >> my number one concern is are there any other embassies or u.s. diplomatic officials out there that are in a dangerous position that we are not providing all necessary protection for? it's a tragedy that we have lost these lives, but it would be even worse if this list of four grew to a list of 8 or more. >> the congressman on the committee that's investigating this. thank you for taking the time. i appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> sobering responses and information. well, mortgage rates also not sobering. in fact, they are at record lows. should you take advantage of it? is it really the best time to refinance? how do you get the most bank for your buck? we will tell you that stra
and ryan made it so. does that seem to you that she is saying that the lives of these four brave americans is not important? >> i hear that, and i also hear that, well, it wouldn't be an issue if we hadn't gotten caught. >> what more do you on your commit that's investigating this whole affair, what more do you want to know? >> my number one concern is are there any other embassies or u.s. diplomatic officials out there that are in a dangerous position that we are not...
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that was just a bit uncalled for, and i think ryan handled it with dignity. suddenly biden knew what he was doing and wasquite effective call you think about it. >> he channeled all democratic party. he knew what happens to is boss. it was like with romney and the president got to mombasa's go at one another. one says to you have to go like the other guy. teach him a lesson, and you have said give us back to where we were, and that is al that joe was looking for, and -- lou: working to his basse. >> absolutely. he had to make up for president obama, and he knew he could get away with it because he has this persona of being battled crazy. lou: he is 27 years the senior, and there is this something about being in the game for a long time. the spontaneity. whether you like what he did not guy he was comfortable. he was kind of in th flow. lou: definitely comfortable. >> having a great time. more of a statesman in doing that because of the seniority, instead of wiping the floor, as some people said to me could have been much more instructive and showed his class
that was just a bit uncalled for, and i think ryan handled it with dignity. suddenly biden knew what he was doing and wasquite effective call you think about it. >> he channeled all democratic party. he knew what happens to is boss. it was like with romney and the president got to mombasa's go at one another. one says to you have to go like the other guy. teach him a lesson, and you have said give us back to where we were, and that is al that joe was looking for, and -- lou: working to...
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seized on the vice president's remarks promising that a room the ryan administration would do better. >> we need to understand exactly what happened. we have our rights and that is what's going on. lou: taking all of this up with former ambassador john bolton who says, his comments are an admission of incompetence and the obama administration, either state or the white house. also, the head of the largest tire share business in the world tells employees thre will be fewer jobs and less subsidy if president obama is reelected. and what is behind the biden of last. psychoanalyzing this marks, flintridge, and behavior of the evening. or first guest says biden's blunder is an admission of incompetence and says it is a risky move leaving secretary of state hillary clinton out on the lam. joining us to a former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, fox is contributor john bolton. ambassador, let's go first to the idea that when jay carney was trying to create some buffer, some comfort cause some zone by saying that vice-president biden was only referring to himself and the presidt of the
seized on the vice president's remarks promising that a room the ryan administration would do better. >> we need to understand exactly what happened. we have our rights and that is what's going on. lou: taking all of this up with former ambassador john bolton who says, his comments are an admission of incompetence and the obama administration, either state or the white house. also, the head of the largest tire share business in the world tells employees thre will be fewer jobs and less...
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romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar claim, i don't think it works well with the general public. all politicians they think stretch the truth. i don't know it's effective en those grounds alone. >> they aren't trying to repute romney, they are trying to ruin romney and they have been trying to do that from the beginning. i kind of degree with you, paul. >> think next week mitt romney has to call barack obama out in this tactic and put it in his face and tell the american people exactly what is going on here. >> let's look at a new mitt romney ad that is new on the jobs and economy. >> look at the evidence of the last four years. we have 23 m
romney is going to have to do a little better than ryan did because ryan almost tack it a little too easily. jason? >> i agree. i think one of the problems with ryan's performance was allowing biden to get away with a lot of what you want to do, particularly on foreign policy, is similar to what we are doing. he has to differentiate themselves. they have to differentiates themselves on all these things from foreign policy to the domestic policy. but one of the weaknesses of the liar...
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was like with romney and the president got to mobasa's go at one another. one says to you have to go like the other guy. teach him a lesson, and you have said give us back to where we were, and that is all thatjoe was looking for, and -- lou: working to his base. >> absolutely. he had to make up for president obama, and he knew he could get away with it because he has this persona of being battled crazy. lou: he is 27 years oh the rd. the two had a little discussion, but that spontaneity, the comfort that he has talked of the part of the vice-president. women, independence, according to the polling call the not too impressed. could cost dearly. maybe it will have no affectat all. >> i think it had note of fact except for it is fun to talk about, but the bottom line is that don't think any line for changed as a result of this debate. it was fun to watch, intesting, and that big we get to see paul rain and a different way. he did very well. at like teddy kept his composure. >> but i think this vice-presidential debate was a little bit more relevant than the o
was like with romney and the president got to mobasa's go at one another. one says to you have to go like the other guy. teach him a lesson, and you have said give us back to where we were, and that is all thatjoe was looking for, and -- lou: working to his base. >> absolutely. he had to make up for president obama, and he knew he could get away with it because he has this persona of being battled crazy. lou: he is 27 years oh the rd. the two had a little discussion, but that spontaneity,...
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however, romney has the advantage. he can point to the obama administration leg diplomats get killed. he can say, look, what obama is doing schblt working very well. in terms of simply judging the incumbent whether successful or not, that is good thing for the challenger to say. >> jon: for instance in the denver debate when he said something about israel, one of our strongest allies in that part of the world. who would be stronger than israel? >> at the moment you have a problem for the republicans because on the ground, people will tell you that intelligence cooperation between israel and the united states is the strongest and best it's ever been. president has a different view from benjamin netanyahu in american security interests in the region and he doesn't think in stopping and being capable of getting a bomb is the standard he wants to adopt. romney is not saying anything any different. >> jon: next on news watch, which candidates better half is getting better treatment from the press. >>> ann romney baking her
however, romney has the advantage. he can point to the obama administration leg diplomats get killed. he can say, look, what obama is doing schblt working very well. in terms of simply judging the incumbent whether successful or not, that is good thing for the challenger to say. >> jon: for instance in the denver debate when he said something about israel, one of our strongest allies in that part of the world. who would be stronger than israel? >> at the moment you have a problem...
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the romney campaign is suing the state of wisconsin. the campaign accusing the state of violating the voting rights of military members and other citizens living overseas. why? wisconsin missed a deadline to send out absentee ballots. griff jenkins has the latest. >> reporter: the romney campaign filed a lawsuit here in madison, against the government accountability board because 26 municipalities failed to meet the 45-day federal deadline to transmit ballots to military and overseas voters. it is a small number of ballots here, of which they are tracking, the romney campaign says every service member deserves to have his or her vote counted and one missed ballot is one too many. state representative evan nguyen is fighting it. >> they are fighting for our right to vote. they shouldn't be denied theirs because somebody back here didn't get their ballots out in time. >> reporter: kevin kennedy is the director of the government accountability board. what is going on with the military absentee ballot situation? we know, it's reported that
the romney campaign is suing the state of wisconsin. the campaign accusing the state of violating the voting rights of military members and other citizens living overseas. why? wisconsin missed a deadline to send out absentee ballots. griff jenkins has the latest. >> reporter: the romney campaign filed a lawsuit here in madison, against the government accountability board because 26 municipalities failed to meet the 45-day federal deadline to transmit ballots to military and overseas...
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congressman ryan made it very clear that governor romney has a different view. although he says he thinks we should get out in 2014, although he says that makes sense, he says we should never have announced that, and it had we not, the afghans would never have stepped up. and, when asked if we get out, he said it depends. ladies, it depends on nothing other than a date. it is time for the afghanis to take care of their own responsibilities. like almost everything, it depends on which day you ask him the question. it depends on the circumstances. it was not just on foreign policy it depends. it was also their attitude about what constitutes a fair tax code, what is a reasonable budget, whether or not even to cut the budget. congressman ryan is saying although they passed the budget in the house which did not become law, which cut 19%, eviscerating education, he said that is not a cut, it is just a smaller increase. i want to tell that all to your parents when they no longer take a $2,500 tax credit next year if they were to win. tell that to the kids who were kic
congressman ryan made it very clear that governor romney has a different view. although he says he thinks we should get out in 2014, although he says that makes sense, he says we should never have announced that, and it had we not, the afghans would never have stepped up. and, when asked if we get out, he said it depends. ladies, it depends on nothing other than a date. it is time for the afghanis to take care of their own responsibilities. like almost everything, it depends on which day you...